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August 21st, 2007
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Happiness and the pursuit thereof

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From:catalana
Date:August 22nd, 2007 03:02 am (UTC)
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Er, by "worry about most" I mean to say that "I agree with the article's concern - this is what worries me most about experience machines/spending your life drugged into feeling pleasure."
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From:tigertoy
Date:August 22nd, 2007 03:19 am (UTC)
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I share your concern, or perhaps I should say I am also concerned that spending one's life drugged into pleasure would not actually be a good thing, since I'm not sure I understand the details of your concern enough to claim to share it.

But what I'm really worried about is the thinking "we, who are wiser than you, know that you can't find happiness down this path (at least in part because we got to define happiness and identity sapping meaningless pleasure is not it), so we will not allow you to go there", and then claim to be upholding the principle of the right to the pursuit of happiness.

Is a society in which the people are allowed few choices but most of them are genuinely happy a better one than one where people have many choices, but most people make bad ones and are not happy? Perhaps it is -- but not by the measure of how well it lives up to the ideals of the Declaration.
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From:billroper
Date:August 22nd, 2007 04:03 am (UTC)
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But do you still have a society in such a circumstance? Or -- more to the point -- are these individuals part of the society?

I admit that I haven't read the article yet, but what I'm hearing sounds distressingly like, for example, Niven's tasps. They didn't seem to be a very good thing overall.
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